Today on Back Porch Theology, Lisa, Allison, and Susie Larson dive into First and Second Thessalonians and what it looks like to live with genuine hope when life doesn't go the way we prayed it would. They explore how the expectation of Jesus' return should shape the way we live today, why dependence on the Holy Spirit is essential, and how prayer anchors us when suffering, illness, or unanswered questions threaten to steal our hope. If you've ever wondered whether your struggle means you're somehow lacking faith, this conversation is a reminder that weakness and unanswered prayer are not evidence of God's absence. He is still at work, still faithful, and still writing your story. So pull up a chair and sit with us - we're so glad you're here.
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On today's episode of Back Porch Theology, Lisa, Allison, and Susie Larson tackle a question most of us will face at some point: How do we move forward when someone's past-or the pain they caused-makes it difficult to see them differently? Through the tiny but mighty book of Philemon, they explore reconciliation, releasing resentment and shame, and the gospel's power to transform not only people, but relationships. This conversation reminds us that grace frees us from keeping score and invites us to see ourselves and others not through the lens of what has been, but through the redemptive eyes of Jesus. So grab a cup of coffee and settle in on the porch with us, we're so glad you're here.
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In today's Couples Therapy episode, we dive deep into the lives of Erin and Ben Napier, the beloved couple behind HGTV's Home Town! They share a candid look at their relationship, blending their professional lives with personal intimacy. They open up about how some people have called them "codependent" - and we touch on the difference between a couple being "connected" vs. "codependent." Ultimately, the big difference isn't how close you are- it's whether your closeness comes from love and security or fear and dependency. They talk about the security they've had in their relationship, and in one another since the early days of their love, and how they work hard to stay connected. We unpack the importance of emotional connection, and how to cultivate that in day-to-day life. Tune in to this episode today!!
Quiz: Are you connected or codependent?
A Connected Couple
* Wants to be together, but doesn't feel like their emotional stability and security depends on being together.
* Has a strong sense of WE without losing their sense of ME (understands their individual strengths, differences, personalities).
* Can spend time apart without feeling threatened or abandoned by the other person.
* Supports each other's individuality, interests, friendships, and growth.
* Can disagree without fearing the relationship is falling apart.
* Takes responsibility for their own emotions while supporting each other emotionally.
* Has healthy boundaries and respects the word "no."
* Makes decisions together without needing permission for every individual choice.
* Can be honest about needs, feelings, and frustrations without fear.
* Celebrates each other's strengths rather than feeling threatened by them.
* Experiences intimacy through vulnerability, not control.
* Chooses connection out of love, not obligation or guilt.
* Recognizes that two emotionally healthy individuals contribute to a healthy relationship.
A Codependent Couple
* Feels like they can't function emotionally or mentally without the other person.
* Loses their individual identity in the relationship.
* Experiences significant anxiety, guilt, or insecurity when spending time apart.
* Neglects friendships, interests, or personal needs to keep the relationship secure.
* Avoids conflict because disagreement feels like rejection or abandonment.
* Feels responsible for managing or fixing the other person's emotions.
* Struggles to establish boundaries because saying "no" feels selfish.
* Needs constant reassurance, approval, or validation from their partner.
* Confuses caretaking, rescuing, or self-sacrifice with love.
* Feels threatened when their partner becomes more independent.
* Uses guilt, emotional withdrawal, or control to maintain closeness.
* Stays connected out of fear of losing the relationship rather than freedom to choose it.
* Believes "If you're not okay, I can't be okay."
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Podcast Extras:
Relationship Skills - Order Now!
Relationships don't fall apart because of a lack of love but struggle because of a lack of skill. As you and your partner move through the four seasons of a relationship each bringing its own rhythms, challenges, and opportunities for growth-how you show up will either strengthen your relationship or slowly wear it down.
Originally released as Love in Every Season, this updated and expanded guide from licensed professional counselor Debra Fileta is your road map to the skills you need to strengthen your relationship at every stage. Whether you're single, dating, engaged, or married, Relationship Skills will help you
* in SPRING: stop ignoring red flags and build on a healthy foundation
* in SUMMER: build connection and intimacy without losing yourself
* in FALL: communicate honestly, repair, and grow through conflict
* in WINTER: stay intentional when things feel stagnant
Let this guide help you take your relationship skills to the next level so you can grow in maturity, deepen intimacy, and build a relationship that lasts!
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Most people hit Leviticus and bail, so Skip Heitzig built a flight plan that gets them all the way to Revelation. Levi and Jennie sit down with their spiritual father to talk Soaring Above It All, a 365-day devotional with no dates on the pages (miss a day, so what?), plus the sermon-as-a-ladder lesson and why young Levi looked like a future pulpit or prison case. Bonus: Chip Lusko and his razor-blade tape editing, and a round of Lies or Truth with Skip's bibliography.
Connect with us on social!
Skip Heitzig: @skipheitzig
Levi: @levilusko
Jennie: @jennielusko
Fresh Life Church: @freshlife
[Links]
Soaring Above It All: https://bit.ly/4gHb9SH
The Bible from 30,000 Feet: https://bit.ly/4iGX2iT
Soaring Through the Bible (kids): https://bit.ly/4x6zqrF
Skip's website: https://bit.ly/4i1CPUJ
Connect with Skip Heitzig Podcast: https://bit.ly/4zRVMzF
Get the 5 Gallon Bucket: https://bit.ly/sdl4sHY
Get the Lusketeer Sticker: https://bit.ly/sdl4sHY
Subscribe for more exclusive content: https://levilusko.com/hitl-subscribe
Time Stamps:
00:00:00 - Godfather Skip and a gratitude list longer than his bibliography
00:02:43 - Why 30,000 Feet exists: nobody hangs around 11 years
00:07:05 - Soaring Above It All: 365 days, zero dates, no guilt
00:17:00 - Pulpit or prison? Skip's first read on young Levi
00:34:33 - Chip Lusko cut sermon tapes with a razor blade
00:42:58 - Lies or Truth: Did Skip write a book about Cadillacs?
On today's episode of Back Porch Theology, Lisa and Allison are joined by Pastor Cliffe and Stuart Knechtle for a conversation about why the Bible remains foundational to our faith and how the truth of Scripture shapes the way we live. Along the way, they explore the message of Colossians and the sufficiency of Jesus Christ, as well as empathy, forgiveness, discipleship, and why the local church matters. So grab a cup of coffee and your Bible and come hang out with us on the porch!
SCRIPTURE REFERENCES:
On today's episode of Back Porch Theology, Lisa and Allison are joined by beloved theologian and friend Dr. Lynn Cohick to wrestle with the question: What does joy look like when your circumstances give you very little to be joyful about? They dig into Paul's letter to the Philippians-a letter overflowing with joy, yet written from prison-and explore what Paul's resilience and Job's faithfulness can teach us about remaining anchored in Jesus when life is painful, uncertain, or simply not what we hoped it would be. Pull up a chair and join us on the porch, we're so glad you're here.
SCRIPTURE REFERENCES:
Today on Back Porch Theology, Lisa, Allison, and Susie Larson dive into First and Second Thessalonians and what it looks like to live with genuine hope when life doesn't go the way we prayed it would. They explore how the expectation of Jesus' return should shape the way we live today, why dependence on the Holy Spirit is essential, and how prayer anchors us when suffering, illness, or unanswered questions threaten to steal our hope. If you've ever wondered whether your struggle means you're somehow lacking faith, this conversation is a reminder that weakness and unanswered prayer are not evidence of God's absence. He is still at work, still faithful, and still writing your story. So pull up a chair and sit with us - we're so glad you're here.
SCRIPTURE REFERENCES:
On today's episode of Back Porch Theology, Lisa, Allison, and Susie Larson tackle a question most of us will face at some point: How do we move forward when someone's past-or the pain they caused-makes it difficult to see them differently? Through the tiny but mighty book of Philemon, they explore reconciliation, releasing resentment and shame, and the gospel's power to transform not only people, but relationships. This conversation reminds us that grace frees us from keeping score and invites us to see ourselves and others not through the lens of what has been, but through the redemptive eyes of Jesus. So grab a cup of coffee and settle in on the porch with us, we're so glad you're here.
SCRIPTURE REFERENCES:
What happens when a 35-year Disney veteran decides the most important thing in his life is not success, but faith? Rick Dempsey reveals the inside story of protecting Disney Character Voices for decades, then using that same global expertise to help bring The Chosen to the world in hundreds of languages.
From Mickey and Minnie to The Lion King, Aladdin, Toy Story, and Tarzan, Rick shares how iconic voices are cast, the tension of being a believer in Hollywood, and the surprising doors God opened when he was finally ready to move on from Disney.
Rick also shares unforgettable stories of moments with Phil Collins, Cary Elwes, Lucy Liu, and Steven Curtis Chapman, and the ripple effect of family, adoption, and a church-centered life. If you care about creativity, faith, family entertainment, or how gospel-driven media can actually scale around the world, this conversation is for you.
What's up! This week, the girls talk about special encouragements found while cleaning the attic, remembering friendships in flowers, and the ways we learn from those who have walked faithfully with the Lord throughout their lives.
We want to hear your real stories of true friendship! Email us at pointofgracestories@gmail.com and you may even hear it on the podcast!
Timestamps:
1:53 What's Up: Letters from the Attic, Celebrating People, and Laguna Beach
11:05 Circle of Friends: Heather, Caroline, and Friendships in Flowerpots
17:04 What in the Word: Luke 12 & Looking For God To Show Up
26:25 Circle Up: Cold Brew, Fasting From Asking, and Super Goop Sunscreen
Mentioned on the POGcast:
Cold Brew Coffee Maker
A Sacrifice of Praise and Thanksgiving by Wendy Speake
Super Goop Unseen Sunscreen
Most people hit Leviticus and bail, so Skip Heitzig built a flight plan that gets them all the way to Revelation. Levi and Jennie sit down with their spiritual father to talk Soaring Above It All, a 365-day devotional with no dates on the pages (miss a day, so what?), plus the sermon-as-a-ladder lesson and why young Levi looked like a future pulpit or prison case. Bonus: Chip Lusko and his razor-blade tape editing, and a round of Lies or Truth with Skip's bibliography.
Connect with us on social!
Skip Heitzig: @skipheitzig
Levi: @levilusko
Jennie: @jennielusko
Fresh Life Church: @freshlife
[Links]
Soaring Above It All: https://bit.ly/4gHb9SH
The Bible from 30,000 Feet: https://bit.ly/4iGX2iT
Soaring Through the Bible (kids): https://bit.ly/4x6zqrF
Skip's website: https://bit.ly/4i1CPUJ
Connect with Skip Heitzig Podcast: https://bit.ly/4zRVMzF
Get the 5 Gallon Bucket: https://bit.ly/sdl4sHY
Get the Lusketeer Sticker: https://bit.ly/sdl4sHY
Subscribe for more exclusive content: https://levilusko.com/hitl-subscribe
Time Stamps:
00:00:00 - Godfather Skip and a gratitude list longer than his bibliography
00:02:43 - Why 30,000 Feet exists: nobody hangs around 11 years
00:07:05 - Soaring Above It All: 365 days, zero dates, no guilt
00:17:00 - Pulpit or prison? Skip's first read on young Levi
00:34:33 - Chip Lusko cut sermon tapes with a razor blade
00:42:58 - Lies or Truth: Did Skip write a book about Cadillacs?
On today's episode of Back Porch Theology, Lisa and Allison are joined by Pastor Cliffe and Stuart Knechtle for a conversation about why the Bible remains foundational to our faith and how the truth of Scripture shapes the way we live. Along the way, they explore the message of Colossians and the sufficiency of Jesus Christ, as well as empathy, forgiveness, discipleship, and why the local church matters. So grab a cup of coffee and your Bible and come hang out with us on the porch!
SCRIPTURE REFERENCES:
In this week's message, "What a Miracle Feels Like," Pastor Tauren Wells walks us through the question, "what if the hardest part of your story is actually the middle of a miracle?" Just because you can't see God working doesn't mean He isn't moving. Don't give up on what God isn't finished with yet, because the greatest miracle might be discovering more of who He is along the way.
Message Notes & 5 Day Devotional: https://linkly.link/2z7Ii
Scripture References:
John 11:3-5, 14-16, 20-27, 32-35, 39-44
Romans 8:28, 35-39
James 1:2-4
1 Thessalonians 5:18
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At 17, Luke Lezon marched into his mom's furniture boutique and announced he didn't believe any of it. She didn't even flinch. Luke joins Levi and Jennie for the story of a 10,000-person Bible study at Texas A&M, a wife he met on Twitter, and how a church split put a 28-year-old young adults pastor in the pulpit every Sunday. Plus Levi looks up what "Gig 'em" actually means, and it is way more violent than anyone expected.
Connect with us on social!
Luke Lezon: @lukelezon
Levi: @levilusko
Jennie: @jennielusko
Fresh Life Church: @freshlife
[Links]
Learn more about Quay Church: https://bit.ly/4yCO3o4
Read Luke's book Your Mess Matters: https://bit.ly/4ea33RZ
Get the 5 Gallon Bucket: https://bit.ly/sdl4sHY
Get the Lusketeer Sticker: https://bit.ly/sdl4sHY
Subscribe for more exclusive content: https://levilusko.com/hitl-subscribe
Time Stamps:
00:00:00 - Staff summits and a sauna on top of a cliff
00:07:52 - "Mom, I don't believe any of this." She didn't flinch.
00:14:47 - Gig 'em origin: yes, it involves killing a frog
00:22:11 - Met on Twitter, told her "I'm gonna marry you"
00:40:23 - 1,200 people become 400, and a 28-year-old starts preaching
00:47:14 - Cut robes, not throats: David's cave and a future T-shirt
On today's episode of Back Porch Theology, Lisa and Allison are joined by beloved theologian and friend Dr. Lynn Cohick to wrestle with the question: What does joy look like when your circumstances give you very little to be joyful about? They dig into Paul's letter to the Philippians-a letter overflowing with joy, yet written from prison-and explore what Paul's resilience and Job's faithfulness can teach us about remaining anchored in Jesus when life is painful, uncertain, or simply not what we hoped it would be. Pull up a chair and join us on the porch, we're so glad you're here.
SCRIPTURE REFERENCES:
Welcome to the POGcast! This week, Andy Chrisman joins the girls for a conversation about touring after spending years off the road, the friends who will never leave you alone, and how understanding God's trust changes our relationship with Him.
We want to hear your real stories of true friendship! Email us at pointofgracestories@gmail.com and you may even hear it on the podcast!
Timestamps:
2:15 What's Up: Solo Tours, Grandkids, and Secrets To Staying Young
7:27 Circle of Friends: The Friends Who Won't Leave You Alone
17:18 What in the Word: Fellowship and God's Trust
28:06 Circle Up: Andy's Best Book Recommendations
Mentioned on the POGcast:
"East of Eden" by John Steinbeck
"Theo of Golden"
"A Prayer for Owen Meany" by John Irving